Addicted to stripclubs?

Sex columnist Dorothy Black talks to a strip club frequent flier to discover where the appeal lies.

So here’s the story.

X is married with two kids and has a full-time, senior-positioned, demanding job. On the side, and unbeknownst to X’s partner, X likes to unwind at top-end strip clubs.

Well, I say ‘unwind’. I actually mean, ‘go to a strip club after work (during work) with a friend (after concocting some fib about traffic or working late), get completely rat-assed, go wild with the dancers, max the credit card and eventually, at the end of the evening, shag the friend before going home’.

Typical dude, you might say. Yawn. Boys.

Except that X is a woman.

The friend she goes with is guy. Also married, with his own family and set of lies.

In fact, I was supposed to be interviewing him. You know, to get the inside scoop, the insightful nitty gritty, the real juicy from a man who’s a strip club frequent flier... But I doubted I’d get more that the obvious, ‘Tits and ass on tap.’

Boys. Yawn. They have a limited vocab sometimes.

‘It’s easier for him,’ says X. ‘After all, he’s a guy; his wife doesn’t really think twice about it the “golf days” and the “after hours work meetings”.’

I call X on a Saturday afternoon and she divulges info to me over the phone during window periods when hubby’s not home.

There is a ‘before’ date, she says, a night a few years back when it all started. ‘In a matter of hours, I went from being totally prudish and against strip clubs, to being, like, “When are we going again?!”’

It’s pure escapism, X tells me. ‘The world outside just doesn’t exist anymore. Nobody gives a shit; there are no airs and graces; there’s no judgment – anything goes; you can do whatever you want.’

Well, whatever you want if you’re able to drop a few k without blinking.

‘The whole taboo of it appeals to my darker side. I had so much fun when I was single; I felt like I stepped into a cage when I got married.’

I can’t help but wonder why you’d marry anyone that made you feel like that in the first place. And then I wonder how many people out there are living double lives. Oh, I remember, lots. They email me with shit like this on a regular basis.

But back to the strip clubs.

For myself I don’t have any problem with strip clubs and strippers.  Maybe with the logistics of management, but, hey, people get treated shit in all kinds of jobs and as X points out (as she’s now become friends with ‘the girls’), all the women that come over do so on their own accord.

Of course, they’re coming from Eastern Europe and who the fuck wouldn’t want to get out of there to anywhere else.

Anyway.

The last time I went to a club, I went with The Don. For a crazy-priced, outrageously short, lap dance I chose the very pretty ass of a very wonderfully perfumed Katja. Only problem was, I wasn’t totally into it, so while she was gyrating her punani in my face all I could ask her was whether she shaved or waxed, cos HELL, that was one very neat pussy.

But that’s just me and I could be in the minority. X reckons more women would go and get totally into strip clubs if there weren’t such heavy societal pressures not to; if it weren’t considered so ‘bad’.

Problem with that idea is that it being ‘bad’ is exactly what appeals no? But yeah, it would be cool if we could all get our skank off without being made to feel like freaks. Or lie about it.

I think about going again, and then about The Don; sitting in the room with Katja, naked and dancing on him. I remember watching him get into it and thinking that all it needed to be cool was for him to make eye contact.

But that wasn’t really our relationship at the time and even if it was I don’t think I would’ve been able to make sexy time with him while she was around (‘They don’t do,’ says X. ‘They let you do.’).

Maybe, simply, I wasn’t drunk enough. Who knows.

X and I talk some more, she confirms the commonly held theory about men : ‘When guys get together, they change. Bad behaviour isn’t restricted to class, race or money. In fact, the more money you have, the worse behaved. Boys will be boys and they don’t need a strip club to do that.’

Sometimes, quite often in fact, I feel so naïve about people. This is one of those conversations. I finish up with X, hang up, go make some coffee and think about Katja. I remember her still. To her? I’m one of thousands of faces she’s danced for; a paying client, nothing more.

It’s probably the reason I’ll never totally get strip clubs or enjoy them 100%. Not sober at least. But oh, how I do like to push those personal boundaries a bit.

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Kiran 6/30/2010 12:22:32 PM
I often "unwind" @ Lolli Pop Lounge. No strings attached. Just good clean fun. PS : I'm a bachelor :)
Shebeen 6/30/2010 12:33:26 PM
There are wa more woman who enjoy strip clubs tha we might think
4thxjuly 6/30/2010 12:37:25 PM
According to Indiana Jones "X" never marks the spot,mind you he was wrong too. I suppose like smokers Liars flock together..The actual act of stripping is no big deal,maybe it's the class of cliental that visit and the Pimps that run it that makes it sordid ? Anyhow they don't do "Real" clubs here:-) I've never been in a club in Rotterdam,honest. *Wink Wink*
Mia 6/30/2010 12:39:43 PM
Sheesh the girl in the pic has a hot ass!!!
Jack 6/30/2010 12:47:34 PM
House of Lords, is my favourite. They do not allow touching and there is no bonking the gilrs. So everything is for visual pleasure, which guys, really appreciate. I'm married, but still take my sons out, as a birthday present, to these clubs. Yes, they are over 21 years old...
@Mia 6/30/2010 1:18:16 PM
You just made our day. Appreciation of the female form, is what it is all about...
Jack@Author 6/30/2010 1:22:12 PM
To just get facts straight, please ask X which clubs she has been to, or which she prefers. A lot of guys are now going to go out to try and spot her, I guess.
Mickey 6/30/2010 1:36:43 PM
The reason I don't really frequent these clubs is because I eventually realised that it's just business. To have a good time, you need to be hammered to get that good old Dutch Courage. Otherwise you do feel quite uncomfortable, and you also find it harder to part with money. The professionals are so good at making you feel like you are Brad Pitt. Sultry looks across the room before they approach you, they really know how to work it. But in the end, it's business. When you are just a normal guy walking around in a mall, you never get those looks, is it because you smell? Nope, it's because you don't smell. Like Money
jenna 6/30/2010 1:53:16 PM
@ Senna
what is your take on the strip club scene?
Black Samurai 6/30/2010 2:19:03 PM
Ladies have been secretive from the beginning of time so I am not shocked by X revelation probably there are a lot of ladies like her an they discuss their "fun" in girls night out. They are tired of being prey they want to be the hunters and have fun with the prey on the side
Just a second 6/30/2010 2:36:20 PM
There is nothing wrong with stripclubs if you're single. But why would you want to go if you got a wife at home? It will only make you realise that there is better out there... wait a minute, maybe that is why women don't want their men to go!
Lukas 6/30/2010 3:20:52 PM
Your articles have reduced to nothing but a cry for attention. Boring like hell. Honestly. Mostly negative energy too.

And self centered. Recent studies proved browsing the internet staves off dimentia, but your articles enchances your risk of dimentia.
Beep 6/30/2010 3:20:55 PM
Wow, how sad for the families of these people. Just shows a lack of respect (for you, your partner and the dancers,)a lack judgement and a lack of self control. Yeah, I am a guy who finds the idea of seeing naked woman erotic. but for the reason's I just said I don't go to these places. Shows the callibre of a persons character. But hey, we can all change. Hope some of you strip club fans give it a good think before you go again.
Marc 6/30/2010 3:34:14 PM
@Mickey - right on the money man, well said. A strip is sexy of course, but way more sexy if the girl is NOT being paid, if she's doing it to turn you on etc etc. But paying for it? That makes you a loser, nothing more - and probably quite a bit less. I know wealthy successful people who go there all the time, and it really makes me lose respect - and you know, none of those guys seem to have any self-respect. But hey, its the world of instant gratification that we live in, not their fault hey?
X 6/30/2010 3:54:16 PM
Beep - Is that you Jesus? Get off your moral high horse and stop being so judgemental. Are you perfect?
Beep @ X 6/30/2010 4:18:03 PM
Certainly not perfect. Done worse things in my life than visit a stripclub. Would like to think I have grown up a bit since. But hey Mr X, if you feel it is right and you can look your partner, parents and children in the eye and ask them to be proud of the fact that you like looking at (sometimes exploited) young naked woman to get your rocks of...well then good for you. Make yourself proud.
Preshen Govender 6/30/2010 4:51:46 PM
Food for thought ?
If stripper are in the industry to pay for there education ,why don't you get lesson about accounting during a lap dance?
X 6/30/2010 8:07:06 PM
@lukas if you don't like Dorothy's articles, then don't read them. Nobody is forcing you. Patronizing, superior prick
Rick 6/30/2010 8:36:46 PM
One good girl friend of mine once said "strip clubs lift the taboo of sex, the entire place is sex charged, when I go with my husband my inhibitions just go away". Of course not all clubs are the same, you need to go to one that would be "girl friendly". Rick - www.thestripclubsearch.com
The Wife 6/30/2010 9:34:26 PM
I have no problem with my husband going to strip clubs. Boys will be boys and, to be quite honest, I'd love to see for myself (but I'm too shy). I don't buy into that prudish "respect,""morals" fire-and-brimstone stuff - sex and raunch have been around for centuries and they're part of our human make-up (hooray for that). But I must add that Mickey's comments are by far the most sensible and honest I've heard on the subject. Sorry guys, those bedroom eyes are on your wallet and nothing else!
jenna 7/1/2010 6:43:07 AM
i love going to the strip clubs because i just love the sexy ladies covered only in sexy g-strings.
Preshen Govender 7/1/2010 7:40:46 AM
strip clubs is like window shopping you can see but not buy
preshen govender 7/1/2010 7:56:33 AM
Tip of the day
Get a lap dance to "Meat Loaf" songs because they are all above 6 minutes
Beep @ X 7/1/2010 8:46:25 AM
My earlier reply to X has not come through. My apologies if this gets duplicated. I certainly do not think myself perfect. I have done far worse things in my life than visit a strip joint. So If you can go home look your partner, children or parents in the eye and tell them you are proud of yourself for paying money to see young (often exploited, don't kid yourself) woman lay themselves bare for us to stare at and into there most intimate parts so you can get your rocks off....seriousely, you think that is OK???? And please dont,t give me the story of we are sexual beings and the naked form is beautiful blah blah blah. Bollocks. I am a guy, it is turn on to see naked women, it appeals to our carnal nature. We can choose to show our character and restrain or do as we please to satisfy ourselves no matter how much we may hurt the people around us.
grim108 7/1/2010 9:24:53 AM
You know the only thing that really bothers me here with Mrs X is the 'fuck the friend at the end of the night'. The strip club, tho done deceptively, is no different to what thousands of ppl do everyday in one form or the other. If her husbands is restricting too much thay def need a sit down. But she got 2 kids!!! If you that unhappy in the relationship, just leave rather than wait to be caught. That invariably always happens
Shame 7/1/2010 9:26:42 AM
It is all about morals, self controll, respect and manners. You lack all of this. I am a man, love woman, especially naked, must be my man genes but I never look at naked woman, I never visit strip clubs or pick up woman in dark alleys. Despite my like, what I must do is apply self controll, have respect for my wife and upkeep my moral standard. It is all a choice, you choose to behave the way you do.
cuba - Preshen 7/1/2010 9:26:58 AM
I am humbled by your insight sir, although any rock from the 80's will do since they are all well over 6 minutes

Perhaps you should write a 'Preshen's Guide to Strippers' article
DN 7/1/2010 10:30:20 AM
I'm not too fussed about strip clubs either way - to each his or her own, I think - although it's sad when deception is happening. I do however love my fiance's stance on strip clubs: He believes there are certain things in life that one shouldn't have to pay for! I'm know I'm lucky to have a guy who thinks I'm the bomb, and makes me feel as if there's no other woman he'd ever want to see in the buff. Guess that's why I'm marrying him!
X 7/1/2010 12:02:05 PM
I think that most of you are missing the point. The women who work at stripclubs do it out of their free will. They do it because they LIKE MONEY and the POWER - trust me I know. I spent alot of time speaking to the dancers and getting to know them. The article focused on only one side of the experience.
On the issue of paying for a service that is not real - PLEASE people - don't you pay to go to movies? Same thing - pure fantasy. I don't believe that when people go to stripclubs they are under the illusion that the dancers are ACTUALLY interested in them. If you do, then you deserve to be ripped off for your stupidity.
My question to all you so called moralists is this - what is the difference between the whole strip club fantasy experience and watching Pamela Anderson and wishing you could have sex with her?
jenna 7/1/2010 12:16:39 PM
This one guy kept throwing monopoly money at a stripper.......
She asked him why he was throwing fake money at her...
He replied...
Because you keep putting fake tits in my face!
JMB 7/1/2010 12:26:33 PM
@DN
for how long? dont forget to remind me when he is tired of eating the same thing over and over and starts looking elsewhere? He will one day try and check to see if the grass is greener on the other side.Just trust me on this one?
Beep 7/1/2010 12:56:28 PM
Hi X, The difference is in acting on your urges. Having the self control to not cheat on your family for your own pleasure. For caring about someone more than you care for yourself. If that makes me a "moralist" then I am happy to be one.
And with regards to the strippers doing it out of there own free will. Sure, plenty do and no doubt some of them enjoy it but it is part of the sex industry and that comes with ceratin levels of abuse for many (not all) of the dancers. It is also a gateway into prostitution. Is that OK with you???
Agree with you on the money thing.
Jack 7/1/2010 2:20:28 PM
@jenna. Are you and preshen related? Because you both have the weirest (but best) kind of humour...

Are you bi are LESBO, Jenna? Just curious, because your earlier reply indicates this..
none of your biz 7/1/2010 2:35:29 PM
The fact the she f*@ked her "friend" says it all....People who go to strip clubs-go to get screwed-weather its by the dancers them selves or people they meet after the show.
Shaggy 7/1/2010 3:29:17 PM
OK, so this girl goes into stripclubs, and enjoys it. So why all of a sudden are all men being targeted? The story is of a WOMAN in the club...

Jenna, keep the humour coming...
Well, hello there 7/1/2010 3:38:34 PM
@Dot, welcome back my dear. @jenna, I saw the troll commenting earlier on the Jesus thread loudly sprouting that she is a xtian.

I went to a strip club once and although I can see the fascination, I'll take mine to go, thank you very much. I've eased Mrs Hello There out of her shell and have so far gotten her to play with herself which she's never done, take pics of her naughty bits which she's never done, and send them to me. Thus far, the video camera is on the tripod when we get our freak on and although we don't record, it's a huge turn-on watching ourselves in real time. I guess I'm saying that if I wanted to see a stripper, I'll install a pole in the bedroom and buy her an instruction manual and video. That way I can charge right into her and not sit in a dark room with blue balls wondering if they'll arrest me if I rub one out while chasing the stripper.
Trevor 7/1/2010 3:53:29 PM
Nothing wrong with looking at the menu but you always need to eat at home.
The Hawk 7/1/2010 3:55:19 PM
I often sleep with strippers usualy for money but now they want stuff like laptop's. What do strippers need laptops for?
Foom 7/1/2010 4:39:07 PM
@X Good for you.
X 7/1/2010 9:35:28 PM
I have just re-read some of the comments as well as the comments on DB's previous article. My question to all you conservative moralist do gooders is the following : who do you bother reading Dorothy's articles when you know what the content will be and you will be so 'dissaproving'? Is it perhaps that you are secretly getting off on it?
Beep @ X 7/2/2010 8:53:04 AM
I like DB's articles. I like the way she writes and find the writing style articulate. I also read the articles because much of the time I hold a apposing veiw to what is written. I enter the debate to push forward my own veiws. Sometimes these veiws can become emotional. My bad, but what is a veiwpoint if it is not emotional (to a point). The article invites comment. so I comment and engage when someone disagrees with me.
So X (if you are indeed the X from the article). Here is a direct question for you. Do you honestly feel that X's (and her strip club partner)behaviour in the article is acceptable??? Simple....so oblige this conservative moralist and answer the question!
X 7/2/2010 9:47:29 AM
@Beep - What makes you think that I was referring to you anyway? Nobody cares what you think. Go away - you are boring me now.
Well, hello there 7/2/2010 10:04:23 AM
I see the christians are out in full swing. Beep, it seems as if your definition of "acceptable"is maybe not the same as someone else's.

Do you know how Eskimos pass the time when they're not hunting deer or peeing their names in the snow ? They're f*cking each others' wives and nobody hides it from anyone. Do you know how they celebrate someone returning home from a long trip ? The men send their wives to the person and the women spent the night. And it's not to share the details of the trip.

In their culture, it would "unacceptable" to keep the p*ssy all to yourself. What if X and her boyfriend are Eskimos and what they're doing is perfectly normal to them ? I'm not condoning it but I'm saying that your or my definition of acceptable does not apply to others and we thus cannot judge or condemn them.

Beep @ x 7/2/2010 10:55:19 AM
Sorry X, just assumed you where talking about me. I must have a complex. You did not answer the question by the way!!
@ Well, hello there. I did not know that about Eskimo,s. Especially the peeing their names in the snow part. Interesting but point taken nevertheless.
X, are you an Eskimo?? If so my humblest apolgies for offending your culture. Everything is now right and as it should be. Except I imagine for your poor husband and childen at home while you bonk away. Sorry to have bored you.
Y 7/2/2010 11:24:05 AM
@ Beep You are a TOSSER!!
Beep 7/2/2010 11:37:38 AM
Dearest Y (how clever). thank you for your witty, intelegent well thought out response. I am humbled.
Well, hello there 7/2/2010 1:15:02 PM
Beep, if you want a some distraction, go to the Christ discussion. It's actually quite fun. Besides, the picture of the ass in the article is making it difficult to think straight. I'm imagining Miss Liebenberg's body connected to it.
not a prude 7/2/2010 2:24:40 PM
I'm into kinky stuff with my man but strip clubs are just not on for me. If he wants to look at punani, he can look at mine! Otherwise, pack your bags buddy. It's disrepectful to your partner. Saying that though, if both partners consent, go for it.
Each to his / her own 7/5/2010 11:55:29 AM
I have been with my husband for 18 years (married for 12). He frequented strip clubs previously (when he was younger) and I never had a problem with it. My thinking is that if he was inclined to shag someone else, he wouldn't have to go to a strip club to do it. He could meet her in the video shop or the local Spar. I am secure in myself and believe that if your relationship is good, honest and strong, no chickie-doll flapping her bits in my husband's face is going to change the inherent characteristics of who he is and what he belives in. When women complain: "He goes to that place, get's turned on by some skank and then wants to shag me' is so daft!! Reading a sexy article in a magazine / book or watching the late Friday night movie on eTV could do the same?? What difference does it make?? I say: each to their own. Who actually cares as long as it doesn't involve children or animals and it's my mutual consent, who gives a &%$#@!!
Mel J 7/5/2010 12:36:57 PM
Preshan I really think you need to get laid...try a blow up doll...it's seems though that would be the closest you would get to a fkcu!
Michel 7/5/2010 9:01:45 PM
@Mel J - WTF is a fkcu!
For effing sure I'm not getting one of those!
I prefer a fcuk!
dolly 7/6/2010 12:54:30 PM
can anyone tell me if there are other strip clubs in cape town besides mavericks, teazers and house of rasputin????
andrew ness 7/7/2010 10:27:42 AM
dolly,Try bottoms up or g-stop
@jenna 7/8/2010 2:16:40 PM
that is the funniest thing i have ever heard - you rock!!!!!hahahahahahahhahah!1
Terri 8/15/2010 8:20:45 AM
Isn't X's behaviour about physical pleasure only? I can undestand wanting to keep "such behavior" from her kids but from her partner?
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